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Torah613Torah on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Is good.Since women are equal and opposite, them doing the same is bad.QED

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YW Moderator-42 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

The minhag of the Tanaim and Amoroim was to wear robes while they shteiged all night.

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WIY on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

I'm not sure one can say women are equal if they are talking in a Torah sense. Although under American law women are equal.

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WIY on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

42 I'm glad that mens fashion moved forward :-)

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Sam2 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

The Gemara says B'feirush that it's Assur for men to wear pants.

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WIY on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Sam2? Really? Where? Why is it assur in that gemara and why is it mutar today to wear pants unless of course we just don't hold like that maan daamar.

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Sam2 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

WIY: Without being specific about the topic, I believe the Gemara is Niddah 13a. It says B'feirush that "Michnasayim" are Assur for a man to wear. See the Aruch Hashulchan (in Even Ha'ezer 21, I think,...

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Torah613Torah on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

WIY: Under natural law women are not equal. Men cannot have children. I like writing mock proofs much better than real ones.

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WIY on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Torah Neither one can have children without the other so yes they aren't equal.

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Sam2 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

WIY: You're clearly not up on the latest sceince. Women can have children without men now.

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rabbiofberlin on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Sam2: your "mareh mekomos" for the prohibition of pants for men must be erroneous. Aruch Hashulchan ,Even Ho'ezer 21 does not have a S/K 13 and I quickly perused the gemoro in niddah 13A and 13B that...

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Sam2 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

ROB: Fine. I'll actually look it up. It's a random Mareh Makom. I'll find them both again, I guess. Sorry. All the Mareh Mekomos I give here are guestimates anyway.

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Sam2 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

ROB: Niddah 13b 4 lines from the bottom and A"H 23:7.

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WIY on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Sam When they successfully produce a healthy normal child get back to me. I don't believe they will succeed.

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rabbiofberlin on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Sam2-thank you! And indeed, as you indicated- although the Aruch Hashulchan indicates it would only apply to tight pants.

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DaasYochid on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Sam, there are people who wear boxer shorts because of that Gemara. The limud z'chus for those who don't is that being used to it from childhood, it doesn't have the effect described in the Gemara....

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Sam2 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

DY: I did retract immediately. I have heard other reasons why boxer shorts are not preferable, actually, and it's a good reason.WIY: I think they have. They can turn a stem cell from a woman's lymph...

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147 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

I wear regular pants on Shovu'os as this is the most comfortable way to be clad to get thru Shovu'os nite learning. Also the least likely to get stained should I accidentally drop some cheese cake.

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YW Moderator-42 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

147, How can you eat cheeesecake while learning Shavuos night? Unless you are in the Southern Hemisphere where the learning is longer than 6 hours. Or perhaps you are yekke and only wait 3. (I will...

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just my hapence on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

42 - 147, How can you eat cheeesecake while learning Shavuos night? Unless you are in the Southern Hemisphere where the learning is longer than 6 hours. Or perhaps you are yekke and only wait 3. Or if,...

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YW Moderator-42 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

There is a mitzvah of simchas yom tov with basar. If you want to be makayeim milchigs, have that in beginning of the meal, then (after the cheesecake mid-meal dessert) change over to fleishigs, bring...

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YW Moderator-42 on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

http://ohr.edu/this_week/insights_into_halacha/5154

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apushatayid on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

It may be considered a lack of kavod hatorah to learn shavuos, or any night, sans pants. I think one is not permitted to enter a shul sans pants, even if he does not plan on learning. Also, since many...

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rationalfrummie on "Men Shteiging on Shavuos, Wearing Pants"

Men dressing tzniusly is good. Since women are equal and opposite, then doing the same is bad :)

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